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rangersaurus · Sep 10, 2007, 02:49 AM // 02:49

Hi there. There used to be a dye combination posted on GuildWiki for a "blood" red color that fit splendidly on female Elite Necrotic Armor. Sadly, the dye combination has been removed and I have a character that just so happens to have purchase a new set of Elite Necrotic boots to complete her set. Does anyone remember that dye combination? I don't recall the whole combination, but if I am not mistaken it was something like Red+Silver+???, though I could be completely wrong. I have tried several combinations in the dye preview screen and nothing seems to match the rest of my armor which I dyed a very long time ago. If anyone has any recollection of the combination I would really appreciate it. Thanks. Here is a picture of the other pieces I have which are dye with the color combination I am looking for.

bam23 · Sep 10, 2007, 03:43 AM // 03:43

Do you remember if it was dyed before the dye update or after?

That really changed the way colors look on armor.

rangersaurus · Sep 10, 2007, 03:47 AM // 03:47

If you mean did I dye it before they added the 'dye preview' window update, then yes I did do they dying in the picture prior to the update.

Onarik Amrak · Sep 10, 2007, 03:50 AM // 03:50

The HoM colours your armor according to the chest piece.

Well, that's what I heard anyway.

But I also heard pre-update dyes don't work properly in HoM.

rangersaurus · Sep 10, 2007, 04:17 AM // 04:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak

The HoM colours your armor according to the chest piece.

Well, that's what I heard anyway.

But I also heard pre-update dyes don't work properly in HoM.

Hmmm...that would be a bit problematic and I certainly wouldn't want my armor to be the wrong color since, if I am not mistaken, you can't change it after you put in in the HoM (correct?). I guess I could try to re-dye the armor and try to get it the right color, but if I just knew the original mix then I could at least try to see if it still works. Anyone recall the mix that was posted on GuildWiki?

Spazzer · Sep 10, 2007, 04:25 AM // 04:25

I'm not sure that it's-colored-according-to-chestpiece-and-can't-be-changed anecdote is entirely correct.

Whenever I enter my HOM, the armors are changed to the color of the set I am currently wearing.

Stormcloud · Sep 10, 2007, 04:37 AM // 04:37

If you dyed it "a long time ago" then sadly you wont ever match the color as they "updated" the dyes and they do not look or mix the same anymore.

Phaern Majes · Sep 10, 2007, 04:56 AM // 04:56

same thing happened to my ranger I bought 3 of the 4 fow pieces for him dyed them a red + black combo, then the update came out. I had to redye everything because the combo I used before didn't produce the same color anymore.

bam23 · Sep 10, 2007, 05:04 AM // 05:04

It's a shame, the new black looks sooo ugly.

Hailfall · Sep 10, 2007, 12:14 PM // 12:14

It was: blue+green+purple+dye remover

and yes it's a shame that we can't recreate it anymore

Yawgmoth · Sep 10, 2007, 03:50 PM // 15:50

The whole dye mixing system got severely screwed with the Nightfall release, the only good thing we got out of it was the preview window. Lots and lots of old colors and combinations are impossible to replicate since then, all that because of 1 certain flaw in the new mixing system, detailed explaination here:

The new dye mixing system doesn't use the color of the dye as you see it for determining the mixing effect anymore, instead every dye has an alternative color assigned to it which is used for mixing!
To see how it looks like just put 2 of the same dye in the preview window. For example put 2 blacks and you will see why it's impossible to make dark colors anymore (for some armors) - yes, it's that grayish crap thats used for mixing instead of the very dark black you see.

And my favorite example, where adding a Black makes the color *brighter*, see this screenshot: http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9...emixingxl5.jpg

Now I keep asking for an official response on this, I need an answer whether this flaw was intended or it's just a bug not detected because of insufficient testing. And I keep hoping for them finally fixing this...

rangersaurus · Sep 10, 2007, 03:59 PM // 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

The whole dye mixing system got severely screwed with the Nightfall release, the only good thing we got out of it was the preview window. Lots and lots of old colors and combinations are impossible to replicate since then, all that because of 1 certain flaw in the new mixing system, detailed explaination here:

The new dye mixing system doesn't use the color of the dye as you see it for determining the mixing effect anymore, instead every dye has an alternative color assigned to it which is used for mixing!
To see how it looks like just put 2 of the same dye in the preview window. For example put 2 blacks and you will see why it's impossible to make dark colors anymore (for some armors) - yes, it's that grayish crap thats used for mixing instead of the very dark black you see.

And my favorite example, where adding a Black makes the color *brighter*, see this screenshot: http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9...emixingxl5.jpg

Now I keep asking for an official response on this, I need an answer whether this flaw was intended or it's just a bug not detected because of insufficient testing. And I keep hoping for them finally fixing this...

So if I am understanding this correctly, there is no way to make a dark red like the color I have right now. Correct? Everyone seems to be saying that the color in the monument is based of the chest armor. I could live with the boots of my actual character being a bit off, but if I went in to the HoM right now, would the monument show my armor as the dark red color or would it be messed up and try to "fix" the color. And I still don't know if I can change it after I have added the armor to the monument, so I don't know whether to keep it as is and see if it works or to re-dye and try to get it close to what I have.

rangersaurus · Sep 11, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24

So I decided to suck it up and try to re-dye. The combination of Red+Red+Brown is reasonably close, though it isn't quite as dark as the old color I had, but it will do for now. I appreciate everyones' input.